Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuuutsu 14 (Finale)
True to the series' namesake, SHnY wraps up riding on the cresendo of Haruhi's melancholy. While I enjoyed its last installment very much (despite the non-closure of many a plot-thread), I could not help but feel sad for Haruhi.
Mikuru has to be Haruhi's worst fear. (Sometimes I wonder if Mikuru was deliberately sent to the past for the sole purpose of triggering catalysmic events in Haruhi's life so that the future may be ascertained.) There is no doubt that the sealed dimension is directly triggered by meido-Mikuru and Kyon's merry-making. We need to remember that beneath Haruhi's tough exterior hides an insecure girl searching for identity and struggling against a (self-perceived) insignificant existence. And here we have, the object of her fancy, frolicking with an out-of-this-world moelicious bishoujo whom she knows he has a little something for. I understand such occurrences can crush self-esteem and the shoujo kokoro.
And so it's not surprising our faltering heroine yearns for an escape, to an exciting world of paranormal DEVOID of others (ie competition). The fact that only Kyon was included in Haruhi's new world and that she was actually keen to remain in that empty world spoke volumes of her take on the rest of the world.
Not her family, not SOS dan, no one else is needed. Only Kyon and a supernatural universe, that is all. This manifestation of her innermost desire shows a lonely and sad Haruhi. Compare this almost cowardly Haruhi to the awesome rocker in ep 13 who jammed/bonded with ENOZ band members and we see how much she has grown indeed.
My next point of lament for Haruhi. The kiss. This IMHO is the single most cruel act Kyon inflicted on Haruhi. Let's establish some facts here. Kyon LIKES Mikuru. Period. Even at the true end (ep 9), it's crystal clear that Kyon prefers Mikuru over all in SOS dan. Next, Haruhi likes Kyon. Duh. (I'm not going to insult anyone's intelligence by explaining here.) Now let's examine the motivation and result of this kiss. Kyon took Haruhi's virginal kiss so as to save their necks. Sounds valid? But wait, Haruhi (though initially shocked) probably kissed back because she would think Kyon LIKED her too!
Now I have said this before,
Granted, Haruhi is more than a friend though less than a lover to Kyon and what he did was reasonable considering the dire circumstances. But frankly, it would also have planted a cruel seed of false hope that may have germinated to full-blown despair should Haruhi find out some day that the love of Kyon's life is Mikuru. Should that day come, Haruhi may have opted for a more humane death via giant stomping had she known the truth. Fortunately since Haruhi believes everything's a dream, it mitigates the severity of my accusations.
However, Haruhi, my dear Haruhi, if I were you, I wouldn't be too worried. Unless they abolish incestuous laws, you are in line for Kyon's heart because I believe....... *dun dun dun*
I have said this (previous postulate) before but the finale offers yet another exciting clue.
Yes, I'm now 75% sure that Kyon's sister is Mikuru and this possibility alone now makes season 2 a MUST-HAVE. I MUST see that "But... but.. I'm your SISTER!" * insert thunderclap* episode.
(KyoAni, I love you and almost worship you. But should you not intend for a SHnY S2, we will celebrate Watanagashi daily at your studio... with blunt chopsticks..)
Concluding, words fail me when trying to convey the beauty of Melancholy of Suzumiya Haruhi. I now understand how apt 'haruhigasm' (CR: Jason) is in describing the series. Because like its root word, one need to experience for himself to know how awesome it is.
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July 3rd, 2006 - 11:55
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July 3rd, 2006 - 14:49
I don’t think Kyon’s sister is Mikuru. Especially since they have different personalities. Kyo’s little sister is more aggressive.
Mikuru being related in some way to Kyon’s little sister is definetly possiblity.
July 3rd, 2006 - 17:08
Sissssssconnnnn….
July 3rd, 2006 - 17:09
Indeed, a fitting ‘end’ to one of the best series this season (though we all know the stories continue after it–after all, chronologically, the baseball episode comes after this one), and it leaves the door open to some sort of continuation (much like Full Metal Panic). Here’s to hoping for another season after FMP COMO…
As far as I’ve ascertained, nothing’s been actually revealed so far about Mikuru’s origins, even after th Intrigues of Suzumiya Haruhi (volume 7 of the novel series), aside from the fact that she and imouto are very close.
Circumstantian evidence point to her being somehow related to Kyon’s family though, but it might be jus me.
July 3rd, 2006 - 17:57
Well unitl we find that birth mark they can’t pull a Luke and Leia just yet. I think deep down Kyon has some feelings for Haruhi-sama he was taking her by the hand and all and at some level there is some trust. All woman Mikuru did say the future will not change and she seems to have severed all contact by the time her womanhood went into full swing. Besides All woman Mikuru can have any guy see wants, but for Haruhi the only non-potato is Kyon.
Hey if you bring the chopsticks I’ll bring the seige towers and trebuchets, the rotting corpses of the LDP can wait, they will be spared if they expand that billet to include grunts.
July 3rd, 2006 - 18:04
What we really need is the Grond, the Hammer of the Underworld, to burst open any doors shut before us. Some trolls to man the Grond would be nice as well.
July 3rd, 2006 - 18:22
>>> There is nothing, NOTHING more cruel than giving false hope to a longing shoujo heart.
That is very true.
An interesting tidbit is that the 2nd and 3rd stanza of Veni, Creator Spiritus, the text of part 1 of Mahler’s 8th symphony which was playing as the shinjins were destroying the school goes like this.
Latin:
Qui diceris Paraclitus,
altissimi donum Dei,
fons vivus, ignis, caritas,
et spiritalis unctio.
English:
O comforter, to Thee we cry,
O heavenly gift of God Most High,
O fount of life and fire of love,
and sweet anointing from above.
Rather emotional for a religious poetry, don’t you think? I guess the music person from KyoAni knew about this stanza as well when choosing Mahler instead of more obvious choice of Haydn’s Creation or the ever famous Dies Irae. I wonder if this means Kyon also has the potential to become god, just like Haruhi. After all, it is rare for a girl to choose someone much less than her equal.
July 3rd, 2006 - 18:24
Oops! I left out the 3rd Stanza.
Latin:
Tu, septiformis munere,
digitus paternae dexterae,
Tu rite promissum Patris,
sermone ditans guttura.
English:
Thou in Thy sevenfold gifts are known;
Thou, finger of God’s hand we own;
Thou, promise of the Father, Thou
Who dost the tongue with power imbue.
July 3rd, 2006 - 19:08
Unfortunately all Kyon’s sister’s actions in this episode were not part of the novel
July 3rd, 2006 - 19:15
Eh, that’s just your siscon talking, Stripey.
She’s more likely (Mikuru that is) to be a Haruhi/Kyon descendant, which would explain why she has to keep so many things secret from him.. and maybe why she didn’t feel all that ashamed to show some of the goods to him, given that he’s probably seen them, albeit in a less-developed state.
Still, I do wonder as to where this will lead, and if Haruhi will let Kyon off the relationship hook, especially given that he kissed her to keep her from destroying the world while ‘sleeping’… since he doesn’t seem to really MEAN that either, as far as his interactions with her go – he likes her, but I don’t know if it’s going that way yet.
July 3rd, 2006 - 20:11
maybe mikuru is a clone of kyon’s sister since some of the things she do seems to be a mirror image with almost exact opposite. Thus, a clone raised in a different environment.
so yeah, (kyon’s spirited sis) ‘god’ ||mirror|| (submissive) ‘dog’
July 3rd, 2006 - 20:13
Great post…this really has been an awesome series to watch, it makes me thank Haruhi/God that I’m an anime fan. Kyon’s sister seems stronger-willed than Mikuru though, so it’s hard for me to believe they’re one and the same, but maybe they’re related somehow…it’d be kind of funny if what Haruhi perceives as her competition turns out to be her and Kyon’s great-granddaughter or something.
July 3rd, 2006 - 20:26
“it
July 3rd, 2006 - 21:07
What about Yuki?
July 3rd, 2006 - 22:01
I agree with Anon XIII. Kyon’s attraction to Mikuru is plain lust. He finds Haruhi much more interesting. I also agree that Kyon is attracted to Haruhi but isn’t ready to accept it. As you pointed out, Haruhi matures through the series. Kyon has some growing up to do as well.
And thanks for your attention to this show! I’ve avoided reading the novel translations so that nothing would be given away, but your speculations often made me think “Dang, he’s right! I wish I hadn’t read that!”
July 3rd, 2006 - 22:50
Aside from the clues you pointed out, I noticed that Imouto with her hair down has the exact same hair pattern over her forehead as Mikuru.
That doesn’t necessarily mean that Mikuru is Imouto though. Maybe she’s Imouto’s daughter or something.
Well, not that I really care that much about Mikuru anyway. Although she’s a nice character, Yuki, Haruhi, and lol fang tan are all far superior IMO.
July 3rd, 2006 - 23:12
Tastes differ… I prefer Haruhi’s plasmic genki over Mikuru (though her squeaks kind of stop the brain). And then there’s Yuki with those thousand mile deep eyes…. but really Haruhi is more my kind of girl (actually she reminds me of my short, perky, excitable, sometimes driven little sansei wife). I think Kyon is enamored of Mikuru but more as a moving piece of art than someone to settle down with.
If Mikuru *isn’t* Kyon’s sister, its one of the more interesting red herrings of the series (I tend to assume Mikuru may be little sister’s great-granddaughter since I don’t see time travel using any physics we currently can envision).
Kyo-Ani has a tiger by the tail … they may be in personal danger if they aren’t already planning a seconde season. Problem though: I don’t want a second season unless they keep to the novel arcs (I don’t remind them re-arranging) and we continue to see *progress* in relationships even if glacially slow.
July 3rd, 2006 - 23:35
Oh, this won’t be the last we’ll see of Haruhi, not by a longshot. However, I do think that KyoAni is going to hold off making a sequel until both the KANON remake is done, as well as Full Metal Panic COMO.
There are a lot of stories left to tell, I assure you. Heck, the Sighs of Suzumiya Haruhi (which covers the making of the Asahina Mikuru movie, and all the wackiness that occurs there) can easily take up six episodes or more. Not to mention the other short stories like Snow Blizzard Syndrome, the Melancholy of Asahina Mikuru, and Endless Eight.
As for Mikuru’s ancestry, I’m of the opinion that she’s probably related to Imouto, but she’s definitely not imouto.
July 4th, 2006 - 00:34
I think I’m still too hyped up from watching Nanoha A’s recently… and Jason’s latest post does not help matters either. I keep expecting Kyon’s imouto to transform into a magical girl now…
July 4th, 2006 - 03:25
As for Mikuru
July 4th, 2006 - 05:19
I’m strongly opposed to the theory that Mikuru = Imouto-san, because Mikuru is a doormat, and Imouto-san is NOT a doormat.
Unless she suffered some traumatic lobotomy in the future…
July 4th, 2006 - 06:12
really though, any false hope set into haruhi’s mind is her own creation, as a result of her being a selfish little !$!@$. and if she can’t tell(or won’t accept) that kyon is not interested in her, and can’t realize that she’s not able to change that, then in the end, all problems she has resulting from it are her own fault, and I have no sympathy for her. and bloody hell, there’s a lot of better ways to get a kiss out of someone than “kiss me or we both die”, as things turned out.
as to kyon’s actions, they seem to be more suggesting a working survival instinct more than cruelty.
but what do I know?
July 4th, 2006 - 08:34
sorry z, but the goddess wanted it that way. You know some of us just go go awwww over tragedies. I guess haruhi does too.
So here’s the part about the kiss. If Kyon failed to kiss her then everything was supposed to go boom. Does that mean the original Mikuru (the most senior one) lost Kyon to the closed space? So since kyon just did everything else except kissed her in the initial path of events, original Mikuru and co gets to continue their world just that the 2 of them dont exist anymore? ono, time paradox.
July 4th, 2006 - 10:39
Here is a thought. I wonder if those from the future decided to send someone who will most likely arouse protective feeling in only entity that can control Haruhi, which is Kyon. The similarity to Kyon’s sister may be deliberate in order to enhance the protective instinct. Actually, it was my wife who first pointed out that Mikuru might have been chose for the physical similarities to Kyon’s sister.
July 4th, 2006 - 15:27
Here is a thought. I wonder if those from the future decided to send someone who will most likely arouse protective feeling in only entity that can control Haruhi, which is Kyon. The similarity to Kyon
July 4th, 2006 - 21:37
I’m skeptical of the whole imouto = Mikuru if only because of Mikuru’s “If I become ruined for marriage, will you take me?” line.
…Then again, we’re talking about Japan…
July 5th, 2006 - 00:26
I’d also have to agree with Anon’s original post that Kyon liking Mikuru over Haruhi is debatable. In my case, since I have only the fansubs to work off of (which is probably much, much less than everyone else), it seems to me that in the last episode, Kyon’s line of thought right before the end leaves one to believe that it’s possible he realized in some small way that Haruhi is more than just a classmate or a friend (although his reaction when he woke up might suggest otherwise, unless he really doesn’t want to admit it). I also agree to the point that Kyon sees Mikuru as nothing more than the moe character that Haruhi wanted in the club anyways (How could you not?). Besides, he was warned twice not to get close to her, and I think Kyon in many respects follows it.
In addition, in the “last” epsidode why would Haruhi let Mikuru put her cardigan on Kyon? She already is jealous of her to begin with. Who’s to say it wasn’t Nagato who did it? She has a not so small affinity for him as well after the megane comment. And Haruhi wouldn’t consider her as much of a “threat” as Mikuru.
Just a thought.
July 5th, 2006 - 01:30
Wow, thanks all for the many insights and kind words. Now to add my 10 yen worth.
After reading so many opinions, I myself am tending to the theory that Mikuru is not Kyon’s imouto but definitely related. (Athough the siscon in me mourns a little) The Mikuru-imouto liaison is unmistakable. The very fact that imouto scenes in the finale are not in the novel only emphasizes this relations because then the very purpose of the scissors scene would be to draw our attention to imouto/Mikuru’s link. Maybe Mikuru is Kyon’s niece (oooh Uncle-con…. kinky) This would bring Kyon’s chiding of imouto, “if you don’t eat your veges, you wouldn’t become like Mikuru” to new heights of irony which SHnY is all about.
As for Mikuru’s role in SOS dan, she’s the anti-theses of Itsuki and Yuki. Itsuki safeguards the fledging universe while Yuki safeguards Haruhi to get more out of her. Mikuru had so far only jeopardised the existence to the universe by provoking Haruhi which led me to believe earlier that she was sent here for that very purpose. To trigger certain events so that Haruhi/Kyon stays on that exact path chartered as the people in the future sees it. So that they might arrive at the very same future they envision (ie I’m with Suguru on this
)
As for Kyon/Mikuru relationship, I like how vexx puts it “enamoured with moving art”
I have to admit that Kyon’s infatuated with her, which does not amount to love. But I have not seen enough to establish that Kyon remotely see Haruhi as love interest. Certainly we as observers from an almost godly isometric view recognise their potential as lovers but as many of you said, Kyon has not come to that realisation or develop the associated emotions for it. Kyon is not stupid/dense like most harem leads and from what the rest of the SOS dan has told him, he should know Haruhi’s feelings for him yet he’s not exactly reciprocating. Definitely more than a friend, but a long way off from even the romantic consideration. 
Finally, for all who’s signing up for the “Ragging KyoAni for SHnY2 – Watanagashi hen” trip, it’s been postponed until after the Kanon remake. Anyone found disturbing the peace of KyoAni staff in this period would be hogtied and forced to watch Kanon Live-action starring Stripey and Zyl in seifuku going uguu while munching taiyaki. You have been warned.
July 5th, 2006 - 06:31
Kanon Live-action starring Stripey and Zyl in seifuku going uguu while munching taiyaki.
Eh bro, u want to Kanon live action, you carry on urself, k? You’ve probably just caused moyism more mental anguish. LOL
Personally I’m happy to wait and have KyoAni turn out a good product rather than rush. I am reasonably confident that there’ll be a sequel as there seems to be enough source material and there’s soooo much money to be made on this franchise.
July 5th, 2006 - 07:24
Eh bro, I thought we agreed on this? You were still whining about doing Ayu’s part cos you wanted to wear that kawaii, red hair-band… LOL!!
Indeed, the pull of cash is much greater an impetus than any push rabid fans can manage. Just waiting for that official announcement…..
July 5th, 2006 - 08:59
going by the theory that whoever sent Mikruru is using her to push Kyon’s buttons. Whoever sent her back has to know Kyon pretty well. The person who sent Kyon back is most likely Immouto-san. She already got a great start in the spying business by puting herself in a luggage bag. She and the talking cat is probably behind sending Mikuru back in time.
July 5th, 2006 - 15:32
Stripey and Zyl doing Kanon cosplay is a bad idea. Its not so much dolling yourselves up harping uguu, wolfing down taiyaki, and laying low moyisim a heart attack. Rather the possibility of friendly fire if KyoAni scuttles the second season you both maybe blamed for performing Kanon witchcraft and possessing KyoAni. Worse you may be seen as traitors to the cause wearing such rags, unless of course Zyl is really a Zaku and Stripey a tanuki. If the worse does occur I hope you won’t be hung upside down with anything inappropriate underneath…
The longer they delay an announcement the more progress I can make building technological terrors. Mikuru is related somehow to Kyon and Imotou-san (we know not her name) I demand answers or that Stripey find irrefutable proof in a birthmark.
July 5th, 2006 - 18:35
Weird, I had a dream about the two Haruhis last night. I don’t usually remember such dreams with such clarity, but in any case, feel free to go ‘huh?’ at it.
I have mostly forgotten about the beginning of the dream, but it has something to do with SHaruhi and Kyon. Only I can’t remember what.
The earliest part of the dream I can remember clearly is that SHaruhi’s dad is stricken with some illness, and she chose to stay at home instead of attending school, and she lives in some sort of mansion… in a forest.
Now this is where it starts getting surreal.
Kyon is there to pass SHaruhi some school notes, but the gate is high, and nobody is answering the doorbell. For some reason also, it suddenly became night. So he turns into a chimpanzee.
WTF?!?!
In any case, Kyon, in chimpanzee form, easily climbs over the gate and is also followed by a horde of chimpanzees( who just appeared out of nowhere…). He scales the walls of the mansion and enters SHaruhi’s room( how he knows where SHaruhi’s room is, I do not know, but it just is). He puts the notes onto one of the desks, and the other chimpanzees create mayhem within the mansion. Natually, this attracts attention and Kyon sees SHaruhi at the stairs, and has to quickly get out of there. He jumps out of the room and runs towards the gate, which is now growing taller… and electrified. He ignores the danger, and gets electrocuted as he climbs out.
… …
Back outside, Kyon reverts back to human form. No… there was no ‘henshin’ sequence, he just… sort of… appeared human again.
Now that Kyon knows SHaruhi is inside, he rings the doorbell again( oh, and it’s daytime now, for some reason). He rings, and rings over and over again, until finally, SHaruhi herself comes out to open the gates( and she is in a down mood). Kyon says something about him being the chosen representative by their class to check on SHaruhi, and they go inside to talk further.
As they sit down on some sofas, Kyon stresses again that he is only here because the class elected him to, and not because he wanted to; and that furthermore, the questions he was about to ask were from other people, and not from him, so could SHaruhi please not misunderstand him?
First question was related to her father’s illness. Kyon asked whether SHaruhi knew the full extent of her father’s illness, and when SHaruhi said yes, Kyon asked whether she was able to cope with it.
Cue SHaruhi’s father’s entrance from the frontdoor, Paul from Keroro Gunso…
Kyon is taken aback slightly by this sudden appearance, and Paul goes on to talk about how hard it must be for SHaruhi to worry about him. He goes to a piano and picks up a photo of woman, whom he explains is SHaruhi’s mother, who had already passed away. A Navy Lieutanent, and a Navy Corporal then appear as well, and the three of them go to the basement… I knew their ranks because for some reason, I had a zoom-up view of their ranks.
Back to the questioning. Unfortunately, my brain is a sieve when it comes to remembering the smaller details, so I am pretty scrambled over what most of the questions were.
I do recall the following though. 
Kyon asks SHaruhi when does she plan to come back to school. Kyon complains that the accumulated pile of schoolwork for SHaruhi is causing him a lot of problems at home, and at school. At home, his father( Ranka from Ouran High School Host Club…) thinks he is helping out his girlfriend, and in school, people are gossiping about their supposed relationship.
SHaruhi then replies, but I can’t remember what she said…
Kyon replies back, saying that the only way to stop these troubles for him is for SHaruhi to either start coming back to school, or she really becomes his girlfriend. Given the way he said it, I think he was only joking on the latter part. I can’t really tell… there’s no rewind option for dreams.
In any case, SHaruhi goes into extreme dere-dere mode at the mention of being Kyon’s girlfriend. So CUTE!
Then the dream ended, and I woke up; and I just had to write it down in Notepad before I forget more details. I definitely know that there was more to the dream before this sequence. It involves trains. I know it does. But I can’t remember WHAT!
Cheers.
July 5th, 2006 - 19:03
Skane: That’s a dream for ya. I see a crystalisation of animes, animal planet (maybe they are from ouran too) and social interactions.
So you get to be the haruhi last night and all u wanted to see gathered coincidentally/inevitably around you – haruhi, army, kyon, crossdressers, chimpanzees, isolated mansion
In this case, they gathered b4 u like u were sitting on a throne in the opera theatre.
Maybe your 2 haruhi is based on the twin concept in ouran, lol. I’m sure it was a pretty cool experience.
July 5th, 2006 - 20:39
Law 1:
yuki> haruhi lies the potential for evolution.
Law 2:
mikuru> haruhi is the cause of a time quake (maybe it means all the previous history were destroyed by haruhi’s whim thus they cant travel back time although the memory remains?).
Law 0:
koizumi> everything gathered becos of haruhi’s desire.
so, back to the basic Law, Mikuru was there only because Haruhi wanted a moe in the club according to koizumi’s theory which refer to gatherings and events triggered by Haruhi’s desire.
The thought that the future pple intentionally chose a person to appeal to Kyon contradicts the haruhi Law. Perhaps, the future tot they had that freedom..while it turned out to be a matter inevitably as quoted in xxxholic.
1.what haruhi wanted:
-ESPer
-timer traveller
-alien
2.what haruhi wanted for her club:
-moe
-mysterious transfer student
-someone helpless so she can take over her club?
what inspired haruhi:
-kyon
kyon being the catalyst, mix and match 1 n 2 and u get the 3 other club members all with their own story and motivation.
in the end, based on Law 0, I think its a case of having a wish (i.e., moe) that have side effects (i.e., pulling kyon in the other way). Since nothing comes for free (as i quote conveniently from xxxholic one of the episode about monkey hand), there must be reasons/motivations that direct the pathway towards the current outcome (i.e., the gathering of 3 + kyon).
July 5th, 2006 - 23:59
Hey Stripey, good thing I watched the last epi before reading ur blog.
I like your theories about Mikuru, but like most of the guys here, I think this clue is too obvious to be true.
In any case, I loved this series. Do you have the chronological order of the series worked out? Haven’t had the time to ‘patiently’ check each epi’s preview to order it together. Think it’ll reveal new things on a second viewing.
July 6th, 2006 - 10:55
In any case, I loved this series. Do you have the chronological order of the series worked out? Haven
July 6th, 2006 - 11:16
Xellos-_^: Ah I totally forgot about the talking cat. Now what’s that all about?
As for who sent Mikuru back. I read a peudo-spoiler which I’m unable and unwilling to confirm its authencity but if it’s true, this person knows Kyon VERY well. 
Crusader: Ok, Kanon live-action starring Hontou-ni brothers is a baaaad idea.
Just imagining Zyl in Ayu get-up gives me a lobotomy. As for Kyon + imouto, their names are key here. Their identities would be crystal clear once their names are revealed I believe.
Skane: LOL! Thanks for sharing an anime dream with us.
Personally I only dream about anime if I have been marathoning it too much. 
I think you need a break from anime-watching. 
As for the train part prior to the Haruhi segment of your dream.. I hope it’s not because you were dreaming on the MRT or something 
crimson: *head spinning for haruhi theories* Kyon’s presence is the most engimatic in SOS dan. I hope season 2 would address this comprehensively.
greyscalefuzz: Oh yes, definitely planning a 2nd viewing with the right chronology. Will post if I find anything especially on imouto-san!
suguru: I’m looking forward to that 2nd viewing in the chronological order since rewatchability is one of the truest test of a series’ worth.
And I’m sure I wouldn’t be disappointed and am expecting to draw out story elements I have missed earlier. 
July 7th, 2006 - 01:11
I have to say I’m skeptical…Kyon’s sister’s personality is quite different, and Mikuru doesn’t seem the type to be acting (the cowardice seems to be very real ^_^)
PS: is “Haruhigasm” based on the title sequence where the “H” symbol for the series comes up with the words “Haruhi GSM”?
If not then its a close call
July 7th, 2006 - 01:54
@suguru: while it would be nice to have the dvd’s released in chronological order, i kinda wonder if they will, because they have already releases SHnY episode 00 on dvd… and vol 1 will be released at teh end of july… if they had decided to release in chronological order, vol 1 would have come out in june and ep 00 wouldn’t appear till right before “live Alive”, as episode 00 is really ep. 11 chronologically… that would also mean that it would not come out till dvd vol 6 (or around there, i think)…
personally, i would have liked it done chronologically, but the talking heads upstairs seem to say otherwise, for now
p.s. for some of us, knowing moon-speak means nothing as to whether or not we collect a series XD
*stares at his collection of f/sn and SHnY ep 00 LE and starts drooling…*
i kind of wonder when, if ever, the novels author will tell us kyon’s real name… that would at least solve some dilemas DX
July 7th, 2006 - 01:57
@yuribou: hehe… for a “Haruhigasm”, look no further than Jason’s anime blog… if you read through some of his earlier postings, it will at least give light to the wordage…
now to go experience another haruhigasm :3
(sorry for the double post)
July 7th, 2006 - 19:51
skeptics! for those who doubt, observe Kyon’s sister’s and Mikuru’s eyes in this ep!
EXACTLY THE SAME
i rest my case
July 8th, 2006 - 02:12
Latin:
Qui diceris Paraclitus,
altissimi donum Dei,
fons vivus, ignis, caritas,
et spiritalis unctio.
English:
O comforter, to Thee we cry,
O heavenly gift of God Most High,
O fount of life and fire of love,
and sweet anointing from above.
Latin
Tu, septiformis munere,
digitus paternae dexterae,
Tu rite promissum Patris,
sermone ditans guttura.
English:
Thou in Thy sevenfold gifts are known;
Thou, finger of God
July 9th, 2006 - 06:46
whoa~ I’m awed with the sudden comeback of The sharp-eyed emotional analyst Stripey, suddenly emerging from a mellowed happy pedophile-wannabe (and still UNFORTUNATELY not a one) who’s been systematically drowning himself in (frequently second-rate and watered down) siscon
It seems you’re still kicking! gotta watch haruhi when I get the chance to lay my paws on it.
About the sister matter – you know your game rules, right? Production people might be perfectly okay with laying out a TONS of evidence screaming “she is his sister” and then discontinuing the series. They do what management says. Better don’t have your hopes high!
July 10th, 2006 - 06:29
kablaq: I agree w you. Knowing Kyon’s real name would probably unravel a lot of the key mysteries. It would reveal Kyon and imouto-san’s relationship with Mikuru at the very least.
DrmChsr0: Indeed, it would be the biggest irony of all since 1) Kyon’s supposedly the most normal in SOS dan 2) everyone’s got their eye on the wrong ‘deity’.
I hope season 2 would shed more light on Kyon’s position in all this.
Dervish_ibn_Candela: LOL! I admit there hasn’t been any first class Da Capo-ish or Koi Kazesque siscon of late which is why I putting all my hopes on Kyon’s imouto (LOL!) But you are right, probably KyoAni or Haruhi’s author messing with our minds.
Catch SHnY soon. I believe it’s built for anime fans just like yourself. 
July 11th, 2006 - 01:50
what if…..kyon is just…kyon
like in yumeria i recall you saying, lol.
July 14th, 2006 - 19:54
I just finished watching the series in “chronological” order … it was quite interesting watching the personality and character relationships evolve (Yuki, Haruhi-Kyon, etc). I see *why* KyoAni ordered it the way it did (and it added to the Twilight Zone nature of it as well as adding some literary interest) but it is kind of neat to watch it in both sequences.
Here’s hoping for more…. (okay.. after Kanon … )
July 14th, 2006 - 23:43
whoa, vexx makes me feel like rewatching it. Usually i dont rewatch cos my time is fully eaten/wasted by alot of other activities. I think i’ll at least skim thru it again.
Come to think of it, arranging the timeline in a jumpy (but meaningful) order might perhaps add 1 point to that “rewatch value” thing. Meaning, thats brilliant.
July 16th, 2006 - 10:04
vexx: Thanks for your thoughts. I need to get to a rewatch myself soon.
From what I recall of the sequence, it would seem that the last 3 eps (eps 12, 11, 9) are huge on Yuki and Haruhi character developments. Poor Mikuru seemed sidelined this series. Hoping they would reveal more of Mikuru’s identity next season. 
crimson: One of the marks of a great series imho is its rewatchability. I have no doubt you will enjoy Haruhi a 2nd viewing (maybe even more than round 1)