Bishoujo perfection in the real world

During one of our many discussions about daughter-upbringing (strangely we never talk about sons. I suppose we both implicitly want him to be like me. XD), she highlighted that most stable relationships exist in an equilibrium of give-and-take. For wonderful bishoujos such as KKK, there is always the danger of giving up too much, too fast. Unlike anime harem leads, guys in RL don't just snub you. They break into you physically, break you down emotional and then break up with you. Makoto is mild by RL standards indeed. But even assuming they meet wonderful guys like their father, there's always the temptation to take advantage of that selfless love during those rare bouts of weakness. (Hey, we're mortals too.)
So we concluded that we'd prefer our daughter to have a little more bite instead of perfection. She can still be thoroughly angelic but it needs to be balanced by a touch of humanity. In other words, a healthy dose of self-love. With that shift in emphasis, Nemu (Da Capo), Elis (Canvas2) and Hiromi (True Tears) replaced the 3 K bishoujos as my daughter-templates. But Mrs Stripey, perceptive as always, reminded me that now we need to worry about siscon.
Ah well, I guess being married to your loving brother is still infinitely more blissful than marrying a self-serving cad.
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April 3rd, 2008 - 08:38
You can encourage your daughter to be sweet, loving, adorable, and have other wonderful bishoujo qualities. That’s great; I know a few girls who are just sweetness to the core and I adore them.
But these girls also have one other important quality that helps them not get walked all over in life: self respect. Something which many bishoujos lack. I can see my insanely sweet friends going to extreme lengths to help a friend who really needed the help, but never going after a guy to the expense of their own well-being.
April 3rd, 2008 - 08:55
Lol, would you want your daughter to mate so early? If I had a daughter, (when, rather), she would be someone like, non-tsundere I hope, since the girlfriend is extremely tsundere. Anymore tsun would be madness.
April 3rd, 2008 - 09:01
Wait, so instead of wanting your daughter to be a KKK, you want her to be HEN? Well, I guess a strange daughter’s better than a racist one, but eh.
April 3rd, 2008 - 09:45
Can I be her god father?
April 3rd, 2008 - 09:51
So you’re not wasting time watching anime, you are researching animated parenting guides. Clever…
April 3rd, 2008 - 09:58
Ew babies
April 3rd, 2008 - 10:00
Belldandy’s still got that mix of yamato nadeshiko as well as.. well, teeth. She can be selfish, won’t let people walk all over her.. most of the time… or at least that tendency has gotten better in recent years.
April 3rd, 2008 - 13:53
Make her an absolute prude. Problem solved.
April 3rd, 2008 - 20:21
Give her to the community we can teach all sorts of things to mold her into a daughter you can be proud of. I for one can teach her how to run, jump, and shoot for 72 hours without sleep. Under my tutelage she will learn how to break boys twice her size in half and learn the subtleties of using a commando knife to make quick and quite work of those who dare incur her fury. By the time I am done teaching her all I know she will be able to be held in fear by any potential suitor. This fear will serve as a deterrent to treachery as any such dishonorable actions will result in the gutting of a traitorous beau and his innards used to grease the treads of her tank. She will be a banchou like Haruka Minami, in no time at all.
As for elegance talk to your waifu, tj han can teach her how to pick a camera, Kurogane can teach her how to tell if a guy is into dakimakuras, Hinano can teach her how to doodle, Impz and Owen S can teach her how to capture the hearts of otaku everywhere, and of course Zyl can give her all the ammo she will ever need to blackmail you into doing what ever she wants. Not sure what you have to offer her though…
April 3rd, 2008 - 20:34
Idea of Crusader-trained Stripey-spawn threatening Stripey with combat moves makes me giggle =D.
April 3rd, 2008 - 20:40
My Choices for Daughter
1. Ishizuki Koyori: She just is too cute
2. Fujibayashi Kyou and Ryou: Why settle for one when you can have two?
3. Tsukamoto Yakumo: She got everything
4. Shirakawa Nanaka: She got some spunk, compared to Kotori.
5. Ichinose Kotomi: I have majored in Physics thus can probably hang around her longer than many others when talking science.
6. Ko Shuurei: She can cook and is book wise. My wife has masters degree in food and nutrition. Notice the similarity?
7. Konoe Konoka (Negima) : Yes, I like girls with long black hair.
8. Balsa: Why not? She looked cute when young, and is my wife’s favorite female character.
April 3rd, 2008 - 20:57
I wouldn’t really hold Hiromi up as the ideal daughter, or even ideal human being.
Raise her with a good sense of right and wrong, teach her how to use a knife on anyone that tries to take advantage of her, and she’ll do fine.
Giving her to Crusader and following his plan is also acceptable.
April 4th, 2008 - 05:14
Agree that a Kotori (or any other character at the top of Stripey’s bishoujo list) would have a hard time existing in RL because of her lack of self respect. It’s unfortunate that few yamato nadeshiko exist in most of today’s societies. There seems to be too much emphasis on the self (i.e. “what does that do for me?”) that there’s the inherent need to protect oneself from the fear of being “stomped all over” in both genders. Being someone who grew up in the NYC area and studied in the Philly area, I can unfortunately attest to never meeting the RL Kotori…
Also, Crusader’s plan: I approve.
April 4th, 2008 - 18:00
Crusader – I see you and I went to similar schools, regarding various skills. I’ve equipped real imoutos with similar skills and outlooks (one of them even is licensed to use restricted weapons like automatics). I am the bane of Stripeys everywhere.
April 5th, 2008 - 01:23
Thanks guys for the support. Listen to the masses Stripey your daughter would to well for a stint in America under my watchful eye, I am sure Impz’s waifu can be your spy.
@Haesslich
I am stuck in California so I cannot get access to assault weapons, I had hoped to get a couple Mosin Nagants at 40USD a pop, but I got to the store too late… Looks like my niece and Stripey’s daughter are going to get Garands as their graduation weapons. Still nothing instills fear like “one shot one kill.”
April 5th, 2008 - 17:14
Crusader: I don’t sell them the weapons, nor do I equip them (mostly, outside of learning where to get decent knives), but one IS licensed to use restricted automatic weapons. So Stripey and his kind need to fear the imouto being trained by our like.
April 5th, 2008 - 21:20
Madame: Well said! Man you said it better in 3 lines than I do in a paragraph XD
tj han: Fear the genes! XD I personally think tsundere is a phase that almost all cute/pretty girls go through. It’s sorta like a defense mechanism to ward of creeps. It’s probably ok for your daughter to ‘inherit’ it for a while but shed it when she grows older
Owen S: LOL! Strange is cute! See Noe XD
Hinano: If I could I’d also like to skip to the part where they don’t cry every 3 hrs for milk.
Kurogane: I think my wife would object to someone who’s blog tagline is “A cat is fine too.” XD
Kabitzin: It used to be dating guides but now that I’m married, yeah they’re parenting guides XD
Beowulf Lee: heh, I’d just try to inculcate enough sensibilities in her to make her own choices (hopefully right ones). she decides what she wants to be (Hopefully like Kotori XDDD)
maglor: I was nodding through your list until… Balsa. I guess I don’t have to worry about anyone bullying her in school XD
Dirian: heh I don’t expect my daughter to be perfect. Hiromi’s fine for me since I still think her choices to be reasonable within the harsh context she made them
koneko-chan: I met a couple of Kotoris in my life. Wonderful, wonderful girls. But they married guys who were… well in our opinion (even though it’s NOT in our place to judge
) not as deserving of them. One of their key charms besides their character AND physical beauty is their humility and steadfastness in love. They weren’t thinking for themselves much but for the person they were attached to. Again, I reiterate it was not our place to judge so the friends around try to look from the other perspective to feel how blessed the guys were
Crusader/Haesslich: The only pistol I hope my daughter would be good with is the arcade one. I desperately need a good partner for Time-crisis 4 and House of the dead 4. XD I could teach her how to tank as a fighter in WOW too but out of the virtual world, I hope she’d be a womanly/gentle as Kotori. A Nanaka is fine too.
April 5th, 2008 - 23:19
Fun to think about. If I ever have children, they better hope they are female for their own sake. I’m probably not serious, but I fear I would raise a trap. Anyyyways.
I myself would love to raise a very pure child, however it is true that she’d likely be stepped on easily if she was too kind of a person. It’s probably why I’ve never met anyone like that in real life. Everyone has some sort of “dark” side for defense in the society we live in. In the past I may have wanted a child similar to Honda Tohru(would be perfect, but would easily be stepped over) or Kamio Misuzu (a little strange, but not an evil bone in her body). Now I’d lean more towards someone like Isurugi Noe, I see her to be extremely pure at heart, but she knows how to take care of herself. Not to mention she is now my favorite character ever, but besides that… (True Tears really was powerful, wasn’t it? XD)
April 6th, 2008 - 01:12
Oh I can change the blog tagline if Mdm. Stripey wants. It’s just such a running joke (and it helps my Google search rank a lot) that I’ve gotten lazy to change it.
April 6th, 2008 - 03:45
LOL, Time Crisis 4? I used to one-credit that on single player, not so sure how I’d do after a long lay-off… House of The Dead 4 is fine and well until, say, The Star. :/
Well, despite the mass of opinions about here, I think that you should just raise her as both you and Mrs. Stripey see fit. Personally I feel that since we are not in charge of your daughter’s life and her upbringing, our advice bears little weight since we cannot take responsibility for our own advice. I can’t even bear to think about parenting as it is right now, life is hectic enough as it is. Whatever the ideal you choose (pure and selfless, self-aware and more reserved, etc) as long as you two can set an example to follow and be consistent with those ideals, I think she’ll be just fine.
April 6th, 2008 - 08:20
Tess: LOL! I’m kind of afraid I’d raise my son up as a philandering harem lead too XD Honda Tohru and Kinomoto Sakura are another 2 anime girls I’d love to have as my daughters. But as you mentioned, the world’s propensity to defile such purity is shocking. Noe has a good balance though I believe Hiromi with that healthy dose of self-centreness would survive better in the real world
Kurogane: Wow! you are willing to sacrifice your blog’s google rankings for godfatherhood! Let me get approval from Mrs Stripey first XD
Cipher: heh wisdom as usual
As with everything, more is caught than taught and I personally think one of the greatest challenges of parenting is to be consistently good role models in spite of our imperfections.
April 7th, 2008 - 01:08
“During one of our many discussions about daughter-upbringing…”
So… Does that mean you also came up with a list of ‘acceptable’ future sons-in-law characters to go with :p ?
April 7th, 2008 - 06:39
heh that’s simpler. We hope for a son-in-law who loves our daughter more than we do
April 7th, 2008 - 08:18
Heh, So you say now… But who knows? A couple years down the road, you might become the next clingy Seto G?zabur?
(From Seto no Hanayome, if you ever seen it…)
April 7th, 2008 - 20:30
If you need your girl to be somewhat versed in the butt kicking aspect that is beyond the groin kick skill, you can get summon me, lolol.
April 8th, 2008 - 06:39
Eeeeeh? The siscon guy is married? Oh shiii-
April 8th, 2008 - 07:50
Chaos2Frozen: Hmmm maybe I should catch Seto to get some insights on the son-in-law selection process. XD
crimson: haha top pugilist is not one of my aspirations for my daughter, despite what everyone thinks
Koji Oe: heh, don’t worry, I don’t promote siscon in my family XD
April 9th, 2008 - 01:49
^
Oh nono, Seto isn’t about the selection process…
It’s about terrifying and messing up the guy’s life ^^;
(P.S – Watch it anyway, it’s bloody hilarious :p)